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Live Oak Bank $200 Bonus on $20,000 Deposit (New and Existing Customers)

Offer is back again, updated with new terms. Again available to existing customers depositing new funds.

Live Oak Bank is an FDIC-insured internet bank that is focused on lending to small businesses. Their personal savings account has a limited-time offer of a $200 bonus if you deposit $20,000+ in new funds into their online savings account by 10/31/24 via this special offer page and keep it there for 90 days. Direct deposit is not required. Valid for both new and existing customers that open a new personal savings account and add new money.

Selected fine print:

Only one bonus is available per person.

Only personal savings accounts are eligible for the bonus offer. Checking accounts, CD accounts and fiduciary accounts (e.g., trusts) are not eligible for this offer.

A new Live Oak Bank personal savings account must be fully funded with at least $20,000 by 11:59 p.m. Eastern Time on 10/31/2024 to be eligible for the bonus. If the account is not fully funded by October 31st, then the account is not eligible for the bonus offer.

All funding of the new personal savings account must consist of funds originating from an external financial institution to qualify; deposits or transfers originating from an existing Live Oak Bank account (whether personal or business) via internal transfer, CD redemption, check, ACH transfer, wire, or loan proceeds do not qualify for bonus offer.

Beginning on the date in October 2024 that the new account attains a balance of at least $20,000, if the balance remains equal to or exceeding $20,000 for 90 consecutive days, then the account will be eligible for the bonus if all other conditions are met. If all eligibility criteria are met, the $200 cash bonus will be deposited to your open, eligible account within 45 days following the expiration of the 90-day period.

Your new account must not be closed or restricted at the time of payout in order to receive the bonus. Live Oak Bank reserves the right to withdraw or withhold the bonus offer from any customer, with or without notice, if fraud or other suspicious activity is suspected.

Bonus math. This is a 1% bonus on $20,000 if you keep it there for 90 days, which makes it the equivalent of 4.00% APY annualized. Bonus will be paid around Day 135 and the account must be open at that time, but you only need to maintain full balance through Day 90. The bonus is on top of the standard interest rate, currently a competitive 4.30% APY as of 10/21/24.

This equivalent of roughly 8.30% total APY over 90 days makes it a decent offer for those with compatible balances looking for short-term place to hold their cash for a few months. Live Oak Bank seems to come and go with the competitiveness of their rates, but it’s nice that this is available to existing customers.

Should You Adjust Your Target Asset Allocation For Future Taxes?

When you add up your assets and liabilities to come up with your net worth, do you adjust the numbers for taxes? The amounts in your Traditional 401ks and IRAs may be shrunk significantly upon eventual withdrawal due to income taxes. You never paid taxes on them upfront, so it makes sense that they are a bit “inflated” during your accumulation phase.

The academic paper Kentucky Windage for Asset Allocation by Jennings and Payne suggests that you should adjust your target asset allocation now in order to hit you goal more accurately in the end. This chart from the paper illustrates the potential effect of taxes on asset allocation:

“Kentucky windage” refers to the practice in shooting to aim upwind of the target in order to compensate for the effect of windage. For example, if the wind is blowing to the right, you’d aim a little left of the target.

For example, if your target is 60% stocks and 40% bonds but you have a lot of bonds being held in your traditional 401k, you should realize that will end up as 70/30 stocks/bonds after-taxes. Therefore, you should “aim” for 50/50 stocks/bonds, in order to truly end up at 60/40. Here’s another illustration from the paper:

Adjusting for taxes sounds like the proper thing to do, but I also found that their example of a 10% shift to be pretty extreme. The actual result is highly dependent on your specific asset class locations and tax brackets. Notice that the chart above assumed no tax hit on a “Stocks outside IRA” taxable account, but in reality there may be a lot of unrealized capital gains. For my own situation, I would estimate less than 5% in after-tax “drift”. Sure, I might still try to correct for that, but under 5% starts getting into noise territory. My target asset allocation may change independently over time for other reasons, or it might just change that much due to a stock market drop (or rise). But if your portfolio is heavily in pre-tax accounts, it’s something to consider.

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