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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.mymoneyblog.com/should-you-manage-your-own-mortgage-escrow.html#comment-183984</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 02:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keri, they are right you have only seen part of what they will do at chase. I have been with them for about 6 years and they have done the same to me and they also have claimed that I am behind on mortgage payments by 2 months. This has happened numerous years usually at the beginning of the year but so far I have got them to relearn how to count or sober up from the egg nog. I am still dealing with them this year and to top it off they will try to make you pay their lawyer fees even though it is there fault. COMPLETE IDIOTS it is a nightmare hopefully i can refinance soon i have put it off until now and i can&#039;t handle no more of them so my advice for everyone is to never use them and get away if you have they are bad news. {GOOD LUCK}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keri, they are right you have only seen part of what they will do at chase. I have been with them for about 6 years and they have done the same to me and they also have claimed that I am behind on mortgage payments by 2 months. This has happened numerous years usually at the beginning of the year but so far I have got them to relearn how to count or sober up from the egg nog. I am still dealing with them this year and to top it off they will try to make you pay their lawyer fees even though it is there fault. COMPLETE IDIOTS it is a nightmare hopefully i can refinance soon i have put it off until now and i can&#8217;t handle no more of them so my advice for everyone is to never use them and get away if you have they are bad news. {GOOD LUCK}</p>
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		<title>By: Keri</title>
		<link>http://www.mymoneyblog.com/should-you-manage-your-own-mortgage-escrow.html#comment-183856</link>
		<dc:creator>Keri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just have to rant about our mortgage company, Chase will not let us out of our escrow!!  We have been with them for just over 2 years, and so far they have failed to pay our homeowners insurance once and now have not paid our real estate taxes on time or at all!!!  Instead, they refunded us the &quot;surplus&quot; in our escrow account...and raised our monthly escrow amount.  How does that make sense??????  They have changed our escrow amount every 6 months or so and continue to send us checks for the &quot;surplus&quot; from time to time!  I&#039;m so furious and considering refinancing just so I don&#039;t have to deal with Chase.  Our county assessor said that we are not the first ones to have problems with them, and we live in a small county-only about 10,000 residents!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just have to rant about our mortgage company, Chase will not let us out of our escrow!!  We have been with them for just over 2 years, and so far they have failed to pay our homeowners insurance once and now have not paid our real estate taxes on time or at all!!!  Instead, they refunded us the &#8220;surplus&#8221; in our escrow account&#8230;and raised our monthly escrow amount.  How does that make sense??????  They have changed our escrow amount every 6 months or so and continue to send us checks for the &#8220;surplus&#8221; from time to time!  I&#8217;m so furious and considering refinancing just so I don&#8217;t have to deal with Chase.  Our county assessor said that we are not the first ones to have problems with them, and we live in a small county-only about 10,000 residents!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Millie  - I did a refinance through Quicken Loans who put me into a conventional 20 year fixed rate loan.  I was at 12% equity so not the 20% everyone mentions.  While I have to pay a nominal PMI, I do not escrow either my insurance or my property taxes.   There are loans out there that will allow for this.  This is my second house and in over 12 years of home ownership I have never escrowed taxes or insurance and am not about to now given all the issues I&#039;ve seen lately with servicing companies paying insurance late, etc. etc.  I&#039;d prefer to be in control of my own financial situation.  Additionally, my insurance company takes out the insurance fees monthly instead of yearly which makes it much easier from a cash flow and budgeting standpoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Millie  &#8211; I did a refinance through Quicken Loans who put me into a conventional 20 year fixed rate loan.  I was at 12% equity so not the 20% everyone mentions.  While I have to pay a nominal PMI, I do not escrow either my insurance or my property taxes.   There are loans out there that will allow for this.  This is my second house and in over 12 years of home ownership I have never escrowed taxes or insurance and am not about to now given all the issues I&#8217;ve seen lately with servicing companies paying insurance late, etc. etc.  I&#8217;d prefer to be in control of my own financial situation.  Additionally, my insurance company takes out the insurance fees monthly instead of yearly which makes it much easier from a cash flow and budgeting standpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: PatD</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 05:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we want to take escrow back this week  WF said the taxes went up 400 a year and they wasnt another 300 a month plus 11, 0000$ and they wont say what that is for, my husband is disabled Gulf War vet he is getting discount property taxes around 400# off yearly and the bank doesnt want to hear that.
we are both disabled and retired, where are we to find $11,000 at this stage of our lives..........we pay 2600 year for taxes really 2400 with Veterans discount and the taxes just went up to 2800, and WF predicts its going to be $5000 next year ( I doubt it) so we should give them an extra $11,000 sorry didnt mean to go off here good night God bless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we want to take escrow back this week  WF said the taxes went up 400 a year and they wasnt another 300 a month plus 11, 0000$ and they wont say what that is for, my husband is disabled Gulf War vet he is getting discount property taxes around 400# off yearly and the bank doesnt want to hear that.<br />
we are both disabled and retired, where are we to find $11,000 at this stage of our lives&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.we pay 2600 year for taxes really 2400 with Veterans discount and the taxes just went up to 2800, and WF predicts its going to be $5000 next year ( I doubt it) so we should give them an extra $11,000 sorry didnt mean to go off here good night God bless</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
		<link>http://www.mymoneyblog.com/should-you-manage-your-own-mortgage-escrow.html#comment-173040</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 23:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were foolish enough to choose to escrow our T &amp; I;  we just hadn&#039;t thought it through enough and we were told that we could always decide to opt out later on.  Wrong!  For the past 4-5 years in a row, our mortgage service has failed to pay our homeowner&#039;s insurance on time and caused our policy to be canceled.  Fortunately, the insurance company has reinstated our policy each year when they finally received the payment; but we were without insurance during that time frame.  Last year that was for over 6 weeks!  Every year I have asked how to drop the escrow and every year they have given us different criteria for being able to do so.  Last year they said we had to be below 78% loan to (original) value ratio.  We&#039;re at that point now - finally! - and now they are giving us a different criteria (prior to Jan, the rule was you could not have a late payment in past 6 months, now they&#039;ve changed it to you cannot ever have a late payment during the entire loan term.  We just had our one and only late payment ever for reasons too lengthy to go into here.)  But they just keep changing the rules to their best interest.    And we do not earn interest on our money that&#039;s sitting in their account  --- they are!
I will never get caught in this trap ever again!   They kept changing the rules about when we could drop the PMI as well.  First, it was after 2 yrs, then 3 yrs, then it was 4 yrs, then 5 yrs (and each year they would tell me that I had to pay for an appraisal or BPO to have the value of the home determined to make sure we owed less than 80% current market value); now it&#039;s been changed to when we get below 78% of the original loan value.  We&#039;re at that point now, and I think they are required by law to drop it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were foolish enough to choose to escrow our T &amp; I;  we just hadn&#8217;t thought it through enough and we were told that we could always decide to opt out later on.  Wrong!  For the past 4-5 years in a row, our mortgage service has failed to pay our homeowner&#8217;s insurance on time and caused our policy to be canceled.  Fortunately, the insurance company has reinstated our policy each year when they finally received the payment; but we were without insurance during that time frame.  Last year that was for over 6 weeks!  Every year I have asked how to drop the escrow and every year they have given us different criteria for being able to do so.  Last year they said we had to be below 78% loan to (original) value ratio.  We&#8217;re at that point now &#8211; finally! &#8211; and now they are giving us a different criteria (prior to Jan, the rule was you could not have a late payment in past 6 months, now they&#8217;ve changed it to you cannot ever have a late payment during the entire loan term.  We just had our one and only late payment ever for reasons too lengthy to go into here.)  But they just keep changing the rules to their best interest.    And we do not earn interest on our money that&#8217;s sitting in their account  &#8212; they are!<br />
I will never get caught in this trap ever again!   They kept changing the rules about when we could drop the PMI as well.  First, it was after 2 yrs, then 3 yrs, then it was 4 yrs, then 5 yrs (and each year they would tell me that I had to pay for an appraisal or BPO to have the value of the home determined to make sure we owed less than 80% current market value); now it&#8217;s been changed to when we get below 78% of the original loan value.  We&#8217;re at that point now, and I think they are required by law to drop it.</p>
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		<title>By: millie</title>
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		<dc:creator>millie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2010 04:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>with a 10% down on a home purchase is there a bank that will allow escrow waver in the Dallas area? All the banks i talked to informed me i have to open an escrow account unless I put 20% down. 
thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with a 10% down on a home purchase is there a bank that will allow escrow waver in the Dallas area? All the banks i talked to informed me i have to open an escrow account unless I put 20% down.<br />
thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 01:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading the posts, I am definitely leaning toward managing our own escrow account.

First time homebuyer, purchased in May 2009.  We are AD military and used our bank (USAA) that provided relocation services, including helping w/ our VA loan.  I spent numerous hours educating myself on the whole home buying process.  I don&#039;t think we had a choice on the escrow account being a VA loan.  They required 3 months prepaids of taxes and 10 months prepaid for insurance.  We received an &quot;escrow analysis&quot; in April 2010 indicating we were $7900 short in escrow and our monthly mortgage payment would increase by $1100 in order to make up the shortage for the following year! I literally cried...how could this have gone so wrong?  Where did I make a mistake?  Thought I was so careful! No way we prepared for an $1100/mo increase.  It was bad!  

Come to find out through many, many phone calls to escrow dept, county tax departments, title company, etc, the tax certificate used at closing to estimate the taxes were from Feb 2008...remember, I closed in May 2009, so a new assessment had been done in Feb 2009...it was $200K more than previous year assessment.  That&#039;s right, the title co or bank (no one claims responsibility) used a tax assessment on unimproved property.  I felt violated!  And to boot, when I called my bank, I got, &quot;yeah, I see that all the time, so sorry that happened to you&quot;.  Are you kidding me?  Is there not a law that prevents a lender from using a tax assessment on unimproved property?  We were able to spread the &quot;shortage&quot; of $7900 over 36 months.  That was the first foul.  Second, we recently considered refinance and I called the escrow dept to inquire about the exact amounts paid for taxes in Dec 2009 so we could use these figures in our estimates. Get this, found out, in addition to the regular taxes paid in Dec 09, the escrow dept paid a property tax bill in Sept 2009, out of our escrow, for property taxes assessed in 2007!  Remember, we bought the house in May 2009. Unbelievable!! Boy, have I learned some hard lessons.  The escrow dept has offered up allowing us to manage the escrow for both taxes and insurance.  Thanks for the advice.  Looks like I will be managing my own from from now own!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the posts, I am definitely leaning toward managing our own escrow account.</p>
<p>First time homebuyer, purchased in May 2009.  We are AD military and used our bank (USAA) that provided relocation services, including helping w/ our VA loan.  I spent numerous hours educating myself on the whole home buying process.  I don&#8217;t think we had a choice on the escrow account being a VA loan.  They required 3 months prepaids of taxes and 10 months prepaid for insurance.  We received an &#8220;escrow analysis&#8221; in April 2010 indicating we were $7900 short in escrow and our monthly mortgage payment would increase by $1100 in order to make up the shortage for the following year! I literally cried&#8230;how could this have gone so wrong?  Where did I make a mistake?  Thought I was so careful! No way we prepared for an $1100/mo increase.  It was bad!  </p>
<p>Come to find out through many, many phone calls to escrow dept, county tax departments, title company, etc, the tax certificate used at closing to estimate the taxes were from Feb 2008&#8230;remember, I closed in May 2009, so a new assessment had been done in Feb 2009&#8230;it was $200K more than previous year assessment.  That&#8217;s right, the title co or bank (no one claims responsibility) used a tax assessment on unimproved property.  I felt violated!  And to boot, when I called my bank, I got, &#8220;yeah, I see that all the time, so sorry that happened to you&#8221;.  Are you kidding me?  Is there not a law that prevents a lender from using a tax assessment on unimproved property?  We were able to spread the &#8220;shortage&#8221; of $7900 over 36 months.  That was the first foul.  Second, we recently considered refinance and I called the escrow dept to inquire about the exact amounts paid for taxes in Dec 2009 so we could use these figures in our estimates. Get this, found out, in addition to the regular taxes paid in Dec 09, the escrow dept paid a property tax bill in Sept 2009, out of our escrow, for property taxes assessed in 2007!  Remember, we bought the house in May 2009. Unbelievable!! Boy, have I learned some hard lessons.  The escrow dept has offered up allowing us to manage the escrow for both taxes and insurance.  Thanks for the advice.  Looks like I will be managing my own from from now own!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 12:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I justed started paying my own taxes. I am with Wells F and they just sent me a letter saying I needed a bigger cushion of $798.00 more in my Escrow account. Now my taxes only went up $17.86 a month this year. So I get a letter stating that I need to pay $798.00 in 30 days or my new Mortgage payment will reflect the $17.86 and the $798.00 in 12 &quot;Easy&quot; installments. So my new mortgage payment would increase by $66.5 To me this is a bit much. I could have paid this but really ticked me off. So I will now when I make my mortgage payment for Principle and Interest I will deposit the remaining in a savings/pma account for tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I justed started paying my own taxes. I am with Wells F and they just sent me a letter saying I needed a bigger cushion of $798.00 more in my Escrow account. Now my taxes only went up $17.86 a month this year. So I get a letter stating that I need to pay $798.00 in 30 days or my new Mortgage payment will reflect the $17.86 and the $798.00 in 12 &#8220;Easy&#8221; installments. So my new mortgage payment would increase by $66.5 To me this is a bit much. I could have paid this but really ticked me off. So I will now when I make my mortgage payment for Principle and Interest I will deposit the remaining in a savings/pma account for tax.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always preferred control over my own T&amp;I payments and decided against escrow---and recently discovered another reason why I&#039;m glad I did.  The company that originally owned my loan went bankrupt---the new company has not received all of the escrow funds customers have paid, because some of those funds are tied up with the bankruptcy!  So some customers who had escrow with the former---are being forced to pay extra money to the new mortage co to bring their escrow balance into good standing  (even though they already paid that $ to the former loan co)  Hopefully it will work itself out in time---but I&#039;m glad I dont have to deal with that headache.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always preferred control over my own T&amp;I payments and decided against escrow&#8212;and recently discovered another reason why I&#8217;m glad I did.  The company that originally owned my loan went bankrupt&#8212;the new company has not received all of the escrow funds customers have paid, because some of those funds are tied up with the bankruptcy!  So some customers who had escrow with the former&#8212;are being forced to pay extra money to the new mortage co to bring their escrow balance into good standing  (even though they already paid that $ to the former loan co)  Hopefully it will work itself out in time&#8212;but I&#8217;m glad I dont have to deal with that headache.</p>
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		<title>By: Vlad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vlad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ATG, you only pay interest on the remaining balance of your loan. Escrow payments eventually go to the respective billers like insurance company and property tax collector.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ATG, you only pay interest on the remaining balance of your loan. Escrow payments eventually go to the respective billers like insurance company and property tax collector.</p>
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		<title>By: ATG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ATG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may seem like a very stupid question, but:
Am I paying interest on the entire amount of the loan including escrow? For instance, if I pay $1010 which includes the loan, plus insurance, plus the taxes, am I paying interest on the insurance and taxes due?  I&#039;m sorry if that is a dumb question, but I wasn&#039;t sure. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may seem like a very stupid question, but:<br />
Am I paying interest on the entire amount of the loan including escrow? For instance, if I pay $1010 which includes the loan, plus insurance, plus the taxes, am I paying interest on the insurance and taxes due?  I&#8217;m sorry if that is a dumb question, but I wasn&#8217;t sure. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 04:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I manage my own escrow and conflate other &quot;once-or-twice-a-year&quot; expenses in the same savings account -- car insurance, Roth IRA contribution (which I typically don&#039;t make until the end of the year), etc.

It is a nice little boost to my short-term emergency fund -- I&#039;d never want to spend my property tax money on something else, but it puts my mind at ease to know I have access to that money to handle any unexpected cash flow issues, and lets me lock up more of my &quot;real&quot; emergency fund in slightly less liquid savings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I manage my own escrow and conflate other &#8220;once-or-twice-a-year&#8221; expenses in the same savings account &#8212; car insurance, Roth IRA contribution (which I typically don&#8217;t make until the end of the year), etc.</p>
<p>It is a nice little boost to my short-term emergency fund &#8212; I&#8217;d never want to spend my property tax money on something else, but it puts my mind at ease to know I have access to that money to handle any unexpected cash flow issues, and lets me lock up more of my &#8220;real&#8221; emergency fund in slightly less liquid savings.</p>
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		<title>By: finallygettingtoeven</title>
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		<dc:creator>finallygettingtoeven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 19:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have always managed our own escrows and I don&#039;t remember a time when we had to pay extra for the &#039;convenience&#039;.  I think it is a smart thing to do, as long as you are responsible.  Not paying your taxes and insurance on time is not something you want to be playing around with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have always managed our own escrows and I don&#8217;t remember a time when we had to pay extra for the &#8216;convenience&#8217;.  I think it is a smart thing to do, as long as you are responsible.  Not paying your taxes and insurance on time is not something you want to be playing around with.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 15:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just bought my second home last July.  Saved .25% on the rate by saying I would escrow.  After 2 monthly payments I called my lender to tell them I no longer wanted to escrow.  They confirmed I had enough equity and then said I no longer had to escrow.  Awesome....so now I am doing it on my own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just bought my second home last July.  Saved .25% on the rate by saying I would escrow.  After 2 monthly payments I called my lender to tell them I no longer wanted to escrow.  They confirmed I had enough equity and then said I no longer had to escrow.  Awesome&#8230;.so now I am doing it on my own.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I voted that I manage my own escrow account, but I also have another house that has an escrow account. That one was a mistake by the lender that I found out about at closing and couldn&#039;t change. We should be able to correct that soon hopefully, but until then, I have an escrow account. On one home we purchased, we had to have an escrow account, and they raised the amount of the payment by $150 a month. Then at the end of the year, they said, oops, the estimates were incorrect, here&#039;s all your money back. Money that we could have kept in the bank earning interest (when interest rates were higher). That really annoyed me and I choose not to go through that experience again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted that I manage my own escrow account, but I also have another house that has an escrow account. That one was a mistake by the lender that I found out about at closing and couldn&#8217;t change. We should be able to correct that soon hopefully, but until then, I have an escrow account. On one home we purchased, we had to have an escrow account, and they raised the amount of the payment by $150 a month. Then at the end of the year, they said, oops, the estimates were incorrect, here&#8217;s all your money back. Money that we could have kept in the bank earning interest (when interest rates were higher). That really annoyed me and I choose not to go through that experience again.</p>
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		<title>By: MakingItWorkNJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MakingItWorkNJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 18:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an escrow account and always found it convenient that I didn&#039;t have to worry about the T&amp;I when I pay my mortgage. 

One question I have is if the Bank royally f&#039;ed up your payment to either insurance or county/municipality, is the Bank/escrow liable? Or is it still you?

If it&#039;s still me that&#039;s responsible even if the escrow account was negligent, then I can see how escrows are useless, and handle them myself. However, I have way too many bills. Worrying about 2 less bills is very much appreciated right now. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an escrow account and always found it convenient that I didn&#8217;t have to worry about the T&amp;I when I pay my mortgage. </p>
<p>One question I have is if the Bank royally f&#8217;ed up your payment to either insurance or county/municipality, is the Bank/escrow liable? Or is it still you?</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s still me that&#8217;s responsible even if the escrow account was negligent, then I can see how escrows are useless, and handle them myself. However, I have way too many bills. Worrying about 2 less bills is very much appreciated right now. <img src='http://cdn.mymoneyblog.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I handle my property taxes/insurance myself for the simple reason of I don&#039;t want anyone but myself responsible for financial things that can carry such a high price if screwed up (as mentioned above)

Banks make money by having escrow payments in the bank and while I&#039;m sure they wouldn&#039;t knowingly do anything illegal (ya right), if a payment gets messed up and stays in their possession, earning interest for them, I doubt they would do much to fix the situation since it&#039;s not their house that will be in jeopardy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I handle my property taxes/insurance myself for the simple reason of I don&#8217;t want anyone but myself responsible for financial things that can carry such a high price if screwed up (as mentioned above)</p>
<p>Banks make money by having escrow payments in the bank and while I&#8217;m sure they wouldn&#8217;t knowingly do anything illegal (ya right), if a payment gets messed up and stays in their possession, earning interest for them, I doubt they would do much to fix the situation since it&#8217;s not their house that will be in jeopardy.</p>
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		<title>By: enonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>enonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 14:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I earn more interest on my escrow account than I do in the savings account where I keep my liquid funds, due to a quirk in CA laws.

That said, I still prefer to manage my own, but I made one mistake, just once paying my tax bill late (the envelope was ready to go and had the check written two months in advance, but the envelope got buried in a pile of papers). It cost me $500.

Pennywise, pound foolish.

In CA I consider escrow to be a non issue either way</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I earn more interest on my escrow account than I do in the savings account where I keep my liquid funds, due to a quirk in CA laws.</p>
<p>That said, I still prefer to manage my own, but I made one mistake, just once paying my tax bill late (the envelope was ready to go and had the check written two months in advance, but the envelope got buried in a pile of papers). It cost me $500.</p>
<p>Pennywise, pound foolish.</p>
<p>In CA I consider escrow to be a non issue either way</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 14:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you are missing is how BAD the mortgage companies tend to screw up homeowners&#039; insurance and property taxes.  One horror story is enough - but I have seen more than a few.

To add to the matter, a relative paid off an escrowed mortgage and didn&#039;t think about the escrow.  I am not sure what happened with their property taxes,but their insurer dropped them without ever trying to contact them (non-payment).  They didn&#039;t realize until they were sued.    I am quite sure most people don&#039;t think about it when they pay off their mortgage.  An extreme example, but makes a point.  These are very financially savvy people who weren&#039;t paying any attention to their insurance.  You shouldn&#039;t just turn off your brain because someone else is handling it.

Anyway, I have found lenders want you to escrow.  I have bought and refied numerous times and always have to ask 10 times not to have escrow, and then cross it out when we sign.  I was shocked during our last refi when a broker friend actually took the escrow out of the paperwork.  Was a nice change.   IT has never cost more or been an issue, otherwise.  We did put over 20% down on our homes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you are missing is how BAD the mortgage companies tend to screw up homeowners&#8217; insurance and property taxes.  One horror story is enough &#8211; but I have seen more than a few.</p>
<p>To add to the matter, a relative paid off an escrowed mortgage and didn&#8217;t think about the escrow.  I am not sure what happened with their property taxes,but their insurer dropped them without ever trying to contact them (non-payment).  They didn&#8217;t realize until they were sued.    I am quite sure most people don&#8217;t think about it when they pay off their mortgage.  An extreme example, but makes a point.  These are very financially savvy people who weren&#8217;t paying any attention to their insurance.  You shouldn&#8217;t just turn off your brain because someone else is handling it.</p>
<p>Anyway, I have found lenders want you to escrow.  I have bought and refied numerous times and always have to ask 10 times not to have escrow, and then cross it out when we sign.  I was shocked during our last refi when a broker friend actually took the escrow out of the paperwork.  Was a nice change.   IT has never cost more or been an issue, otherwise.  We did put over 20% down on our homes.</p>
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		<title>By: Vlad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vlad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also live in Boston and pay taxes myself twice a year with credit card earning 2% cash back. This is in addition to interest saved by not having escrow. However, I do remember there was a slight difference in mortgage interest rate offered by my local broker when I was getting mortgage 5 years ago. I had to opt for having an escrow at loan origination time to get lower rate. Right after loan origination (within first month) I called mortgage servicing company and asked them to cancel escrow account and let me pay taxes myself. Somehow it worked. I guess they could not care less because they knew my mortgage was for sale and let it slip. In a month my local broker sold my mortgage to Countrywide, but by that time I already had control over my tax bills and Countrywide and now BoA never raised a question about escrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also live in Boston and pay taxes myself twice a year with credit card earning 2% cash back. This is in addition to interest saved by not having escrow. However, I do remember there was a slight difference in mortgage interest rate offered by my local broker when I was getting mortgage 5 years ago. I had to opt for having an escrow at loan origination time to get lower rate. Right after loan origination (within first month) I called mortgage servicing company and asked them to cancel escrow account and let me pay taxes myself. Somehow it worked. I guess they could not care less because they knew my mortgage was for sale and let it slip. In a month my local broker sold my mortgage to Countrywide, but by that time I already had control over my tax bills and Countrywide and now BoA never raised a question about escrow.</p>
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		<title>By: FredMertz</title>
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		<dc:creator>FredMertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 11:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never had an escrow payment problem with Countrywide/BofA, and honestly don&#039;t understand why anyone would want to deal with paying all the bills on their own.  My escrow balance has run negative many times and the simply keep paying the bills until they eventually change the escrow percentage.  I do, however get interest on the account, but it is marginal.  I would much prefer not having to deal with paying the bills even if it meant not getting interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never had an escrow payment problem with Countrywide/BofA, and honestly don&#8217;t understand why anyone would want to deal with paying all the bills on their own.  My escrow balance has run negative many times and the simply keep paying the bills until they eventually change the escrow percentage.  I do, however get interest on the account, but it is marginal.  I would much prefer not having to deal with paying the bills even if it meant not getting interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 05:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some states require interest to be paid on your escrow account. For example in California its 2%, which is not great but is better than most savings accounts right now. I don&#039;t know how this differs in other states.
I was forced to use an escrow account by my lender but since it is earning interest I can&#039;t complain too much. Its does require keeping tabs on your lender and the county tax assessor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some states require interest to be paid on your escrow account. For example in California its 2%, which is not great but is better than most savings accounts right now. I don&#8217;t know how this differs in other states.<br />
I was forced to use an escrow account by my lender but since it is earning interest I can&#8217;t complain too much. Its does require keeping tabs on your lender and the county tax assessor.</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 01:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was never even discussed with any lender or mortgage broker I&#039;ve worked with.  

I&#039;ve had an original loan of 80% with a 15% HELOC (2nd), refi&#039;d 2 times and opened/refi&#039;d a HELOC 2 times and have always paid my property taxes, HOA dues, and internal insurance on my own.  I have heard of this before, but the mortgage brokers / Credit Union (HELOC) never offered/required it.

I typically use a SmartyPig account to fund my property taxes with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was never even discussed with any lender or mortgage broker I&#8217;ve worked with.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had an original loan of 80% with a 15% HELOC (2nd), refi&#8217;d 2 times and opened/refi&#8217;d a HELOC 2 times and have always paid my property taxes, HOA dues, and internal insurance on my own.  I have heard of this before, but the mortgage brokers / Credit Union (HELOC) never offered/required it.</p>
<p>I typically use a SmartyPig account to fund my property taxes with.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 21:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As soon as the lender allowed me, I began doing it myself for all reasons mentioned above, especially do to multiple lender errors. Since there was no interest in my former escrow account, the only benefit that I saw by letting the lender do it was the even monthly payments. It was easier to budget and monitor cash flow with an escrow account. But, that does not outweigh the benefit of DIY for a control freak like me. =]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As soon as the lender allowed me, I began doing it myself for all reasons mentioned above, especially do to multiple lender errors. Since there was no interest in my former escrow account, the only benefit that I saw by letting the lender do it was the even monthly payments. It was easier to budget and monitor cash flow with an escrow account. But, that does not outweigh the benefit of DIY for a control freak like me. =]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Boston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris in Boston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 19:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have felt the pain of escrow problems.

Once for unexplained reasons the City of Boston returned a payment to GMAC.  GMAC redeposited the money back to my escrow.  Neither the city nor GMAC informed me of this event.  However, within 6 months, the city decided to issue a lien on my property due to lack of payment.

when I received the lien notice, I immediately called GMAC and they sent the extra payment for me to get current.  However, a lien is a nasty thing to have on your credit report.  That took me years to get rid of.  Not to mention I had to pay an attorney to help get the lien removed from my credit report, and file an article of tax title redemption with the local registrar of deeds.

Unfortunately since my refi last May to get to a 4.65% rate with BoA, I could not get such a low rate if I did my own escrow.  So... I am still using BoA escrow services and hoping they do a better job.

The City of Boston never could explain why my payment from GMAC was returned.  It is also infuriating that they take no ownership of the problem which was caused by them returning the damned check to begin with!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have felt the pain of escrow problems.</p>
<p>Once for unexplained reasons the City of Boston returned a payment to GMAC.  GMAC redeposited the money back to my escrow.  Neither the city nor GMAC informed me of this event.  However, within 6 months, the city decided to issue a lien on my property due to lack of payment.</p>
<p>when I received the lien notice, I immediately called GMAC and they sent the extra payment for me to get current.  However, a lien is a nasty thing to have on your credit report.  That took me years to get rid of.  Not to mention I had to pay an attorney to help get the lien removed from my credit report, and file an article of tax title redemption with the local registrar of deeds.</p>
<p>Unfortunately since my refi last May to get to a 4.65% rate with BoA, I could not get such a low rate if I did my own escrow.  So&#8230; I am still using BoA escrow services and hoping they do a better job.</p>
<p>The City of Boston never could explain why my payment from GMAC was returned.  It is also infuriating that they take no ownership of the problem which was caused by them returning the damned check to begin with!</p>
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