FISN Bank CDs Paying Over 8% Interest: Being FDIC-Insured Isn’t Enough
I’ve already written about Millennium Bank - the offshore bank offering 8% certificates of deposit that are not FDIC-Insured, let alone highly regulated. More recently, a group called the Federally Insured Savings Network (FISN) has been advertising FDIC-insured Certificates of Deposit Paying Over 8%”. What’s the deal?
It definitely looks too good to be true, but let’s look at the fine print and see what we can find. I’ll just focus on the highlighted CDs paying a 8% and 8.25% APR to save some time.
These Are Long-Term Investments With Very Limited Liquidity
The maximum terms for these CDs are for 15 or 20 years! If you wish to withdraw early, you can be sure it will be with a fat penalty. However, it may not even be possible to re-sell them at all. From the disclosure: “Lack of Liquidity. The CDs will not be listed on an organized securities exchange. JPMSI may offer to purchase the CDs upon terms and conditions acceptable to it, but is not required to do so.” This could be worse than even taking money out of your IRA or 401(k).
High Minimum Investments
In this case, you need $25,000 to invest with FISN as your broker to JPMorgan Chase Bank.
They Are Callable, And That’s Not Good
A callable CD means that the bank can say “I found a better deal elsewhere, so I no longer want to pay you this much interest anymore. Bye!” You’ll get your principal plus interest earned up to that point, but this usually happens when interest rates fall, leaving you stuck with alternative paying a lot less than you were getting before.
On the other hand, you the depositor have no such flexibility. You’re still stuck for as long as the bank wishes. Again - up to 20 years! Put another way: Heads, the bank wins; Tails, you lose.
Not A Fixed Rate CD - 8% Rate Isn’t Guaranteed
When talking about a bank CD, you’re usually referring to a fixed rate CD. However with this investment, you may or may not get paid any interest based on the following criteria:
Interest is paid quarterly for every day the 30Yr Constant Maturity Swap (CMS) Rate is greater than the 10Yr Constant Maturity Swap Rate (Positive Yield Curve). If the 10Yr CMS Rate is greater than the 30Yr CMS Rate on any day (Negative Yield Curve) no interest is accrued for that day. Full 8.00% rate guaranteed for first year.
Trying to figure out exactly what CMS rates were made my head hurt. But very generally, if the long-term interest rates are higher than short-term interest rates (positive yield curve) you’ll get paid your fraction of 8% annual interest that day. However, if the curve goes negative, which it has for extended periods in the last few years, you don’t get paid any interest that day. So 8% is basically a best-case scenario. Over a 15-year period, I highly doubt you’ll be getting the full 8% each year. Earning 0% is the worst-case scenario.
I’m Not Interested
So yes, technically these are FDIC-insured to the extent that your principal is safe. But your money could be stuck sitting around earning nothing while inflation eats away at the actual value. And the bank will only keep paying the interest if it remains profitable for them. These seem to be sophisticated investments being marketed at the unsophisticated public. Buyer beware!
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March 1st, 2008 at 12:45 pm
This is not really a CD, what the investor is really doing is speculating on the future direction of interest rates and that’s okay if you want to do that but there are better ways to do it. I noticed that this company also has CD’s that pay 8% for a term of as little as 1 year so you don’t necessarily have to lock your money up for long periods of time. This idea might work over a short period of time, i. e. one year. There’s less risk that way.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
“Justtoeguy”, you said “This idea might work over a short period of time, i. e. one year.” - Ok, and after 1 year you’ll spend all your 8% (and probably more) just to pay for steep fees foe EARLY withdrawal. Sweet deal, indeed!!!!!!!!
March 7th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
If you look at their web site it says that you can get a 1 year CD with the 8 1/2 rate so there isn’t any early withdrawal penalty after the one year is up. But there seems to be other potential problems with the deal, somewhere in the contract it seems to suggest that the Bank can decide on it’s own if the yield curve is inverted or not. So you’d be trusting the Bank to calculate things properly. What you see in the paper wouldn’t necessarily apply.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Do not confuse the “non-callable CD term” with the actual term of the CD. You, the buyer, cannot withdraw from the CD after 1 year. You cannot withdraw on your own for 20 years!
Only they, the bank, can end the CD after 1 year if they want. Again, this product should only be bought by those who understand all of the terms given.
March 8th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
They have a 1 year CD based on the S&P but no interest rate is given. Regarding some of the other CD’s it just says that 20 years is possible and that the bank can’t call it for one year. But it doesn’t say you can’t get a term of 1 year. You might be able to get a term of 1 year if you negotiate with the bank.
March 13th, 2008 at 7:40 am
So far
March 19th, 2008 at 5:28 am
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