Archives for September 2009

Efficient Market Hypothesis and Supermarket Lines

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I ran across another nice tidbit from the book The Undercover Economist by Tim Harford the other day, which like the concept of price targeting, also manages to involve supermarkets. I guess everyone goes to supermarkets. 🙂

In a chapter exploring stock market pricing, he covers the the idea of rational investors, the “efficient market theory”, and the related “random walk hypothesis”.

You can see the same phenomenon at work at the supermarket checkout. Which line is the quickest? The simple answer is that it’s just not worth worrying about. If it was obvious which line was the quickest, people would already have joined it, and it wouldn’t be the quickest any more. Stand in any line and don’t worry about it. Yet if people really just stood in any line, then there would be predictable patterns that an expert shopper could exploit; for example, if people start at the entrance and work their way across the store, the shortest line should be back near the entrance. But if enough experts knew that, it wouldn’t be the shortest any more.

The truth is that busy, smart, agile, and experienced shoppers are a bit better at calling the fastest lines and can probably average a quicker time than the rest of us. But not by much.

To me, this is a nice and simple way to explain the argument of efficient markets to say, a fifth-grader. If the market price of a stock was a lot lower than the “true” value, people would start buying, and soon the market value would equal true value. Even someone that young can appreciate trying to pick the shortest line, weighing the possibility of getting through quicker with the possibility of ending up actually waiting longer than if I had just stayed put. In the end, how much do you really gain on average?

Relative Efficiency

I would expand this analogy a bit further, however. In the stock market, if you can reliably “beat” the average person by just a few percentage points a year, you would become rich. Really rich. In the supermarket, the prize is a few extra minutes. I think people would agree that a lot more people around the world are trying a lot harder to get rich, than people are trying to get through the supermarket line. In the stock market, you’re trading against professional arbitrageurs and some supercomputer programmed by a genius hired by Goldman Sachs.

Imagine a supermarket full of world-class athletes connected via radio to spotters placed above each checkout line! This constant competition increases the “efficiency” of the market, and therefore makes it much harder to be above average.

Switching Costs

Despite the slight chance of improvement, I still like to try and find the shortest line at the supermarket. But what if I had to pay 50 cents every time I switched lines? I’d probably stay put.

This is similar to what happens when you try and actively trade the stock market. An actively managed mutual fund will cost nearly a full 1% of your total assets a year, while a passive index fund will be around 1/5th that cost (0.20%). Over time, that really adds up. If you do it yourself, you’re also looking at stock commissions. If you spent $10 a trade and bought $500 of a single stock a month, that’s a 2% hit for a buy, and 4% round-trip. High costs are the primary reason why you always hear that actively managed funds don’t outperform index funds.

In the land of investing, you can keep trying to pick the fastest line, but be realistic about the competition and watchful of your costs. By “staying put” with low-cost mutual funds, you’re guaranteed to be above average.

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Ohio CollegeAdvantage $25 Systematic Savings Incentive

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Along with the $25 “Refer a Friend” bonus for new members (possibly more if you have more than one child), the Ohio CollegeAdvantage 529 plan is giving out an additional $25 “Systematic Savings Incentive” if you start a new automatic transfer from your bank account or payroll deduction. Here is the fine print, but the major points are below.

To earn the $25 bonus, the electronic funds transfer (EFT) or payroll deduction must be started between September 1, 2009 and January 31, 2010. The bonus will be applied to your CollegeAdvantage account 90 days after you start the EFT or payroll deduction and meet the following requirements:

  • A minimum of $25 must be deducted per month.
  • The EFT and payroll deduction must still be active at the 90-day mark.
  • For EFT only, a minimum of three EFT pulls must have occurred within the 90 days.
  • For payroll deduction only, at least one payroll check must be applied within the 90 days.

Got two 529 contributors? You can get $50:

More than one Systematic Savings Incentive bonus may be awarded per account in the case where the Account Owner and other Contributors sign up for a recurring EFT or payroll deduction for the same account. For example, the Account Owner could start a recurring EFT and the spouse could also start a recurring EFT or payroll deduction as a Contributor for the same account. In that case, the account would receive a total of $50 if all other criteria for the bonus are met.

If you are like me and already have an automatic transfer in place:

CollegeAdvantage direct accounts with a current recurring EFT or payroll deduction are eligible for the bonus offer if a “new” recurring EFT or payroll deduction is started for the Account by either the Account Owner or Contributor, provided they are not the party currently responsible for the current recurring EFT or payroll deduction. For example, if the current recurring EFT was established by the Account Owner, a Contributor could also start a recurring EFT or payroll deduction and potentially qualify for the bonus as a “new” recurring EFT or payroll deduction. In this case a $25 bonus would be applied for the new recurring EFT or payroll deduction. The Systematic Savings Incentive bonus is intended to reward new systematic savers. The account will not qualify for the bonus if a current recurring EFT or payroll deduction is stopped and a new one started between September 1, 2009 and January 31, 2010.

By this, I read that my wife could start contributing an automatic amount as well, and we could get one $25 bonus. However, stopping and re-starting an existing automatic transfer won’t work.

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Intuit, Makers of Quicken, Buys Mint.com

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Yesterday, Mint.com announced that they were acquired by Intuit for $170 million. Not too shabby. Intuit is best known for personal finance products such as Quickbooks, Quicken, and TurboTax. They also released Quicken Online last year, which was basically a direct competitor to Mint.com. Both aggregate your spending and income by automatically accessing the data your financial websites, and analyze your habits for you. However, according to their press release, Intuit intends to keep both of the them separate:

Intuit intends to keep both the Mint.com and Quicken Online offerings, with each serving separate and equally important purposes. Mint.com will become the primary online personal finance management service that is offered directly to consumers by Intuit. Quicken Online will connect Quicken customers across desktop, online and mobile to deliver easy, anytime-anywhere access. This will help accelerate Intuit’s ability to create products and services that make managing money easier for all Intuit customers.

One of the benefits of this deal seems to be that concerns about data safety might be alleviated. Millions of people trust Intuit with their tax returns, which are probably some of the most sensitive data out there, so they might be more comfortable with sharing their financial website passwords with Intuit.

On the other hand, the competition between Quicken Online and Mint.com probably inspired some extra features and also made sure that both services remained free. According to WalletPop, there are “no plans” to charge for either of these services for now. Both sites have improved a lot recently, I just hope that continues.

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Ask The Readers: Cash Savings vs. Paying Down Loans

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There was a great response to my last Ask The Readers post: Parents Losing Home To Foreclosure!, so here’s another interesting question from one reader who’d like the input from other readers (yes, you!). It a variation of the old saving vs. paying down debt debate:

My wife and I were having a debate about savings as it relates to our home equity line of credit (HELOC). She has been brought up under the mantra of “always have at least 3 months of savings available,” which is fine by me, since I’ve always been a saver. Prior to getting the HELOC, we saw eye to eye pretty well. Now that we have a HELOC with about a $20k balance on it, I no longer would like to put any of my extra funds into a conventional “savings” account, but would rather use it to pay down the balance on the HELOC. To me, this is a game of interest rates — the HELOC is at 3.99% and the savings account is about 1%. I’m an IT guy who likes to see things in black-and-white whenever possible, and this is a case of that. As such, I’m willing to keep a ZERO (or negligible) balance in my savings account and just transfer funds from the HELOC account whenever we need money. I’m having a hard time selling her on this idea, though.

As I see it, I’d rather have $0 in my savings account and and $11k balance on my HELOC, whereas she’d rather have $9k in savings and a $20k balance on the HELOC. Even discounting the tax advantages of a HELOC, it seems like the higher interest rate accrued on the HELOC debt should override the low interest on savings. To me, it’s all one pot of money with differing interest rates. What’s your take? I’m sure this isn’t an uncommon circumstance.

The Liquidity Factor

This doesn’t directly answer the question, but I felt like one missing consideration is liquidity. Are home values decreasing in your area? How much home equity do you currently have? Unless it is a very high number, you may be in danger of having your HELOC frozen by your bank, which means you could be unable to borrow any more money at 3.99%. Many banks have been doing this recently.

If you were in the $0 in savings and $11k balance scenario and needed $1,000 to fix the car or more for some other emergency, what would you do without the HELOC? I am guessing that this is the situation that might worry your spouse, it would worry me!

Readers, what would you do?

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Lending Club Investors $25 + $2,500 Giveaway

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Last month, peer-to-peer lending website LendingClub reached $50 million in issued loans. This month, they are expected to get their 25,000th registered investor, and are going to give that lucky lender $2,500 cash. The rules:

* To enter the contest simply open a free investing account by completing all three steps of the investor registration process: create a password, verify your identity and link your bank account
* No purchase is necessary to win
* The winner will be announced after October 31, 2009

$25 New Lender Bonus
In addition, you can still use this special $25 lender sign-up link to get a free $25 to try it out with no future obligation. There is no credit check and you don’t even have to deposit anything. After you are approved, the $25 will show up in your account balance, and you can lend it out immediately. You must reside in a state that allows such investments.

Want to learn more? See my previous posts on LendingClub. I’ve invested in everything from someone’s $38,000 house to a taiko drumming training center.

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Insider Trading Activity vs. S&P 500

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If you’re a corporate “insider” such as an officer, director, or other certain employees, your purchases and sales of stock must be reported to the SEC in order to reduce illegal insider trading. Technically, an insider is not supposed to trade if they have “material nonpublic information” when making the purchase or sale. But still, who would know better?

Therefore, it’s interesting to see how insider trading activity as a whole by comparing the amount of shares being bought and sold during all this volatility, and then compare that with the market. See the graph below compiled in this CNN Money article:

Insiders loaded up overall during the panicky months of February and March, and then seemed to sell off a bit in happy August. I wouldn’t necessarily base future trades on this relationship, but it is definitely food for thought!

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Ohio CollegeAdvantage 529 Plan: Free $25 Starter Bonus

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The Ohio CollegeAdvantage 529 Savings Plan is again offering a $25 refer-a-friend bonus if you open an account and deposit at least $25 by December 15, 2009. You can be a resident of any state, and there are no application or annual fees.

Rated a Top 529 Plan by Morningstar
In a recent article The Best and Worst 529 College-Savings Plans by Morningstar, the Ohio CollegeAdvantage plan was rated in the top 5 plans:

Features they liked included having a wide variety of investment options (including active/passive, multiple age-based options, and even ultra-safe CDs), as well as low total expenses. In-state resident can also deduct up to $2,000 of contributions per year, with excess carryover allowed.

My Personal Experience
So far, I am quite impressed with the Ohio plan. The website itself is functional and fast, there are a variety of investment choices (cash, index funds, active funds), they are upfront with the fees, and the expenses are very competitive – either the lowest or near the lowest in the nation. There are no inactivity fees, minimum balance fees, or other bogus fees. The only bad thing I can think of is that every time I make a purchase I get a snail-mail confirmation with no paperless option, which seems wasteful.

I have gotten the $25 bonuses plus several referrals, with no complaints from the people I referred. I have also started an auto-debit from my checking account for $50 a month. Right now, half of my 529 is in the Vanguard inflation-protected bond fund. This is an investment option that is unavailable in most state plans. I feel that since college is only at most 18 years away with a big lump-sum payment, I would prefer less volatility while marching towards that goal. This is in contrast to saving for retirement, where I currently have 35 years until I turn 65, and hopefully another 20 years after that as well.

Referral Bonus Instructions
Currently the newly referred person gets $25, and the referring person gets $50, and I’d love for you to help fund my kid’s college dreams. 😀 Here’s how:

  1. You can enroll online or via mail. The online process was quick and easy, and I didn’t have to mail in anything.
  2. The first step is to input your personal info and choose a login/password. Next, you’ll verify your e-mail and complete the application.
  3. After that, you’ll choose your funding amount and select an investment fund. Your initial deposit must be a least $25, and is funded using the account/routing numbers of your bank account. At the bottom, you will need to enter a referral code to get the bonus. Enter *.
  4. In 1-3 days, your initial deposit will be taken from your bank account, and in 5-7 business days you will get your $25 bonus. The $25 will be deposited directly into the 529 account, and will be invested in the same thing as your initial deposit.

If a child has two parents, one parent may sign-up and then refer the 2nd parent to get another bonus, while both can list the same child as the beneficiary. If your child is not born yet or does not have a Social Security number yet, you can choose yourself or another family member as the beneficiary, and then later on fill out a Change of Beneficiary form.

Here is a screenshot of me getting my $25 bonus successfully and as promised:

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Investing in California Municipal Bonds?

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Recently, I’ve been taking another look at investing in California municipal bonds. Even if you don’t live in California, the yields can be quite attractive. But is it a good idea?

Tax-Equivalent Yields
Right now, the Vanguard California Intermediate-Term Tax-Exempt Fund (VCAIX) has a yield of 3.49% with an average maturity of 7 years. In addition, since the interest from this fund is exempt from both federal and California state income taxes, the equivalent taxable yield is actually much higher. You can use a tax-equivalent yield calculator to find out how it works out for your tax brackets.

If you are in the 33% federal tax bracket and 9.3% CA bracket, that 3.49% would be the same as a taxable bond yielding 5.74%. Even for an out-of-state investor, the federal tax exemption alone gets you to 5.21%, which is higher than many mortgage interest rates.

If you are in the 25% federal tax bracket and 9.3% CA bracket, that 3.49% would be the same as a taxable bond yielding 5.13%. For an out-of-state investor, the equivalent yield is 4.65%. As you can see, these yields are definitely more attractive for those in higher tax brackets.

Safety Concerns
Is this reckless rate chasing? Let’s look at a few articles on California munis by Vanguard, Schwab, and Fidelity. Here are some highlights:

  • You’re nearly first in line. California’s constitution requires that state general-obligation bond payments take priority over other payments except for those that fund education. This means as a bondholder you’re ahead of other government employees, firefighters, and basically everyone else.
  • Diversify. If you do invest, don’t make it all of your portfolio. There is still some risk. You can still hold other national muni funds, US. Treasury bonds, and investment-grade corporate bonds.
  • Buy a bond fund. I would invest in a managed municipal fund and not in individual securities unless I was very experienced. You don’t want to have to navigate a minefield of call risk, GO bonds, bonds based on sales tax revenue vs. utility fees, and other tricky details.

Holding Period Concerns
It’s important to note the maturity and duration of the bonds you’re buying, because if you have to sell sooner than the average maturity, you’ll be greatly exposed to price volatility. For example, if California’s credit rating drops further, then the current market value of the bonds you buy will also drop. If you sell early, you’ll have to take a loss. However, if you are able to hold a bond until maturity, you’ll still get the fixed yield and the principal back, so it won’t affect you.

Also, if you sell early and the bond value has increased, you may be subject to capital gains taxes from which you are not exempt.

My Personal Opinions
I’ve been keeping track of all the ways the state of California has been trying to manage this budget shortfall, and it is clear they are ready to take some very drastic steps to cut expenses. In any event, I fail to see how the U.S. government would not bail out California if things got really bad. If private corporations can get bailed out, why not a state full of voters? I’m not alone, however, as these bonds have been rallying as of late.

I am thinking of investing in California municipal bonds for a very specific scenario: I would buy them instead of paying down my mortgage further, as the tax-equivalent interest rate from the bonds is actually higher than my (tax-deductible) mortgage interest rate. This way, I both come out ahead in terms of interest and I have good liquidity if I wish to access the money for some reason. I also don’t see myself as taking too much extra risk, as I would with a stock fund for example.

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Restaurant.com: $25 Certificates for $1

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Restaurant.com is offering a whopping 90% off with the coupon code NINETY, resulting in a $25 “certificate” for $1. Starts midnight 9/9/09 and expires in 90 hours.

I have never bought one of these certificates, due to all their restrictions and fine print. Here are just a few:

  • The “retail” price of these things is $10, and they still have to discount, so that should tell you something about the true value.
  • Participating restaurants are limited, and usually offer either bad food with okay prices, or good food with really high prices. I have never seen a restaurant on their list that I have been a regular diner at already.
  • Virtually all restaurants require a minimum purchase of $35+, making these more coupons than gift certificates. Also, they can often only be used on Fridays or weekends.
  • You have to triple-check that any specific place still takes the certificate, because the website may be outdated and turnover is high. Showing up with friends, only to be turned away, is annoying.
  • You have to announce that you’re paying with a certificate before you order, which for some has affected food quality and/or service. Be sure to tip on pre-coupon amount. Some restaurants will mandate a 18% tip on the pre-discount bill.

Still at $1 a piece, it might be worth a shot if you can find one decent participating restaurant. For those that have used these before, how did it work out?

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Monthly Net Worth Update – September 2009

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Net Worth Chart 2009

Credit Card Debt
For newer readers, I have taken money from credit cards at 0% APR and placed it into online savings accounts, bank CDs, or savings bonds that earn 4-5% interest (much less recently), and keeping the difference as profit. I even put together a series of step-by-step posts on how to make money off of credit cards in this way. However, given the current lack of great no fee 0% APR balance transfer offers, I am mostly waiting on existing offers to end.

Retirement and Brokerage accounts
Not much stock market movement this past month. Wife’s 401k was already maxed out at $16,500 for 2009. I made another $5,000 contribution to my Solo 401k, for a total of $10,000 contributed in 2009. This makes us about 80% done with our goal of maxing out both our 401k salary contributions for 2009.

Our total retirement portfolio is now $181,673, or on an estimated after-tax basis, $145,887. At a 4% withdrawal rate, this would provide $486 per month in tax-free retirement income, which brings me to 22% of my long-term goal of $2,500 per month.

Cash Savings and Emergency Funds
I did pay an additional $6,000 towards my mortgage this month, which ate up a lot of cash. This is roughly two extra mortgage payments, which if I do this every year will put me on track to shorten my 30 year mortgage to 20 years. Depending on interest rates, future contributions may be invested into municipal or government bonds.

We still have a little over a year’s worth of expenses in our emergency fund.

Home Value
Using four different internet valuation tools – Zillow, Cyberhomes, Coldwell Banker, and Bank of America (old version) – I again took the average and took off 5% to be conservative and 6% for real estate agent commissions. This ended up giving me a 6% value increase this month, which again makes my home value movements dwarf all other activity for this net worth measurement.

I’ve been using these internet tools for 10 months now, and while I like being able to track the overall trend in home values, the wide swings in estimates make me very skeptical of their accuracy. I expect to do this for another 2 months so that I have an entire year of data, but after that I will switch to another less volatile method.

You can view previous net worth updates here.

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Free Chick-fil-A Chicken Sandwiches

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You can get a free Chick-fil-A Original Chicken sandwich today 9/7 if you show up wearing your team logo. You can also get a coupon by mail for a free Chick-fil-A Original Chicken Sandwich if you sign up for their newsletter (first 250,000). More info and sign up at ChickenWave.com. I really miss eating these things. Thanks Pat and Sarah!

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How To Redeem California IOUs (Registered Warrants)

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Back in July, the state of California started issuing what they called Registered Warrants, aka IOUs, to taxpayers, vendors, and local governments to whom they owed money. Due to a “cash-flow infusion” from JP Morgan Chase, the redemption date was moved up a month to as early as last Friday, September 4th. Through August 31st, the state had issued 457,238 IOUs totaling $2.37 billion. Here’s mine 🙂


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Since I had to figure this out myself, I’ve tried to collect all the disparate information about how to redeem these IOUs below. The interest rate for these IOUs was set at 3.75% per year. You can estimate the interest accumulated on your IOU using this Excel calculator. Each $1,000 of IOU issued on July 2nd would have only accumulated about $6.70 of interest by now.

In Person

If you live near Sacramento, you can redeem your IOU with all accumulated interest in person for a check (not cash) at the State Treasurer’s Office located at 915 Capitol Mall, 1st floor.

Walk in hours are Monday through Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Third parties redeeming IOUs by mail must include a notarized bill of sale signed by the person to whom the IOU was issued.

Via Snail Mail

You can also mail your IOU to the State Treasurer’s Office. According the state, IOU holders should receive their checks in a week to 10 days including mail time. Mail to:

Attention: Registered Warrant Desk
State Treasurer’s Office
915 Capitol Mall
Sacramento, CA 95814

It seems like you just mail the IOU by itself, although one press release said to be sure to include a return address. This makes sense especially if your address is different than the one printed on the IOU.

Pay Your Other Tax Bills

You can also use it as direct payment towards current and past due personal and corporate tax obligations. It is not clear if they will account for interest earned, but I can only guess that they won’t.

To pay a tax liability with an IOU, endorse the IOU on the reverse side with the phrase “Pay to the order of Franchise Tax Board” and your signature then mail it with the tax bill or estimated tax voucher. By law, FTB cannot deposit the IOU until it is payable, but FTB will credit the taxpayer’s account on the date the IOU is received to stop the accrual of interest. If the IOU is not sufficient to pay the outstanding balance, taxpayers should send an additional payment for the difference. Otherwise, the taxpayer will receive a bill reflecting the new balance due.

Deposit Directly At Bank

Some major banks with a presence in California, as well as many local community banks and credit unions are accepting these IOUs from their customers. Whether they will cash IOUs from non-customers, or if they will credit interest earned, is something to verify directly with them. If they do credit interest and you have an account with them, this would be the easiest and fastest method.

The following major banks will accept IOUs from their customers:
Bank of America (starting Sept. 9th)
Bank of the West
Citibank
Union Bank
US Bank (starting Sept. 8th)
Wells Fargo

The following major banks will NOT accept IOUs from their customers:
Chase

Wells Fargo and Bank of America have publicly stated that they will credit interest paid by the state to their customers’ accounts. BofA will accept the IOUs on September 9th, and then will credit the interest owed by the state on these items to customers’ accounts within approximately 30 days (I suppose when they redeem it themselves). WF will only credit if the interest amount exceeds $5. Wells will stop crediting customers for interest due after September 30th, but will continue to cash them for face value after that date. BofA will accept the IOUs through October 9th.

Sources: State Comptroller’s Office, CA Treasurer’s Office, Franchise Tax Board, FTB release, BofA press release, Bizjournals

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